Now I know Otherwise are being touted as a “next big thing” in the States; I’ve read that “Soldiers” has been played at the graduation ceremonies of Army Engineers and that Fox News once called Otherwise the Number 1 unsigned band in America. Then again, being lauded by Fox News (who recently ripped apart the new Muppets movie for being too liberal) may not be a good thing – just sayin’.
Opening with the legend, “For the warriors who fight and die… so the rest of us may fight to Live” we’re shown shots of American citizens looking mean while Adrian Patrick sings about this being a perfect day to die; it’s like an episode of Star Trek and the Klingon commander has ordered an attack on the Enterprise, however, we’re not shown space battles, just two ambulance men and a fireman, presumably apt images for the lyric. Hold on, a dude in a pawn shop? A lady standing behind a bar, a guy working in a coffee shop, and a carpenter? Possibly dangerous, but hardly wiping blood out of our eyes, which Patrick is singing about at this point.
“Soldiers” is designed to be an anthem. It’s written to draw out the last chorus as a massive sing-along as a set closer. It’s about “Proud to be American” and “There’s a war going on, we’re all fighting it.” As far as I’m concerned it falls flat, even if the single was released on 9-11-11. The song brings back horrible memories of the Creed, Papa Roach, and Puddle of Mudd rock scene from the early aughts. Adrian Patrick has a great voice, the whole band are talented musicians, and some of their tunes are pretty decent: “Lighthouse” has a cool Eastern vibe and is stronger than “Soldiers,” but I’m not convinced on any level. I feel there’s a really good band in there dying to get out.
Researching this band I hit play on their MySpace player and let it go for an hour. I only stopped when I heard a woman’s vocal (was Avril Lavigne’s new track). I flipped back to the MySpace player and the last five bands I’d listened to were not Otherwise, but rather tunes by different artists.
This genre of hard rock made massive waves back in the early aughts, sort of 9.5 parts Nickelback, 0.5 part Slayer, a slightly heavier hard rock designed to appeal to the same target audience as the Transformers movie, i.e., the biggest, dumbest target audience possible. I wouldn’t be surprised if this song wound up on the next Transformers movie soundtrack, but I can’t see it doing well in any marketplace other than America.
Coming to a close we’re shown shots of a roller derby team who look tougher than the football players in the next shot, Ryan Patrick beats his chest singing “We stand shoulder to shoulder” and there’s this whole “we’re in this together” vibe, but in what? In low-paying jobs? In school? In a roller derby team about to kick ass? In the gym? What? As a UK outsider I feel alien to the concepts in this video and can only guess at the bigger meaning. The question is: Will the American public like this? Probably. From a UK perspective, is it any good? Hell no.
you should youtube the song and see the millions of people who have connected with it globally before you blast it and continue to spew ignorance in your “objective” review. even your army in the UK has embraced this song. you didn’t do your research on this band at all to know what their music is about or what they are singing about. you are just trying to find a means to blast them with false facts. btw – as much as it pains me to say this, but you are a soldier too being in charge of your own business and life, fighting for what you believe it, writing, blasting artists without any true research and contributing to this world of ours. but you checked their myspace?!?! news flash. NOBODY CARES ABOUT MYSPACE and you further proved how removed you are from current society, trends and what is really important in this world. surprised you haven’t posted how EDM is the next big thing. thats the spirit of the song. but i wouldn’t expect someone from the UK to understand what fight for what they believe in would mean. So hate on your fellow man. As we strive and drive to better this world you just shit on the same society that fights just to put food on their tables and say they aren’t soldiers and that you are better than them. ass. would love to see you at download.
I wonder who gave this person a job being a critic of music ♫
Everyone I know who has heard this song relates to being a soldier .. Being a “soldier” doesn’t always mean “military” ♫
Cheyanne
I agree. Just because a song is called “Soldiers” doesn’t mean it HAS TO BE military. I get perfectly what they are trying to say. There are soldiers in everyday life FIGHTING to get through. So fuck this guy who wrote this article.
Samantha Smith
WOW! I am a soldier! WE ALL ARE SOLDIERS! We all have our own *battle* to fight. & If you don’t see that from that song then you need to listen to it again.
Someone
Wow, you have not a clue of what the song actually means do
you. Thanks for being just a touch of further proof that anyone with a computer
can show the world they’re a dumbass…
Janelle
Wow. This might be one of the WORST reviews I’ve ever seen in my life. It’s almost as bad as the one someone wrote calling Avenged Sevenfold a satanic band because of their Call of duty music video! I think you should look more into the lyrics before you decide to start your horrible accusations. It’s not just a military thing, it’s about ALL of us fighting an ongoing fight. Everyone in the entire world. You should go back to school for journalism because you sir cannot are a pathetic excuse for a writer. And by the way, Myspace? I hate to burst your bubble but no one uses that anymore
Tami
Soldiers isn’t just about beng in the military. It is about standing up for yourself, for your family, for what you believe in. It’s about finding those precious few friends who will stand beside you through thick and thin, no matter what. It’s about being knocked down and getting right back up and kicking ass no matter what life throws at you. It’s about standing tall. Millions of people connect with this song from all walks of life. It is sad that you just don’t get it.
Nicole McKay
Seriously?
soldier (ˈsəʊldʒə) — n
1.a. a person who serves or has served in an army b. Also called: common soldier a noncommissioned member ofan army as opposed to a commissioned officer
2.a person who works diligently for a cause
So a firefighter doesn’t work diligently for a cause? A nurse doesn’t? A single mother trying to put food on the table for her child doesn’t? Yes, soldiers are men and women that fight to serve our country, but that doesn’t mean that every human being on this planet isn’t a soldier in some form. You are extremely ignorant.. Have you never noticed that song lyrics, like poems, are usually not meant to be interpreted literally?
Amazing song, and I give them a lot of credit for getting to where they are today and soldiering on.
Jade Harper
Its about everyone world wide having to fight for something in this life. I am a soldier just not from the military. Everyday I soldier on as a single mom of two kids after being in an abusive relationship for 4 years. I soldier on at my job to support my kids. I rest on about an hour of sleep a night and sometimes don’t eat but a snack during the day that way my kids have things they need. So “We are the ones who will never be broken, with our final breath we’ll fight to the death WE ARE SOLDIERS” Soldier: (Noun) a person who contends or serves in any cause (I think life is a pretty big cause)
http://www.facebook.com/945ans Ashy-Boo Smith
When I first heard this song I loved it. I never stopped loving it. To say that Otherwise is being offensive by not having ‘true’ soldiers in their video doesn’t mean that they are committing a crime? If you truly had sense, you wouldn’t have posted this pointless nonsense. Majority of my family has been in the military, and they’ve been through it all. But me, I refuse to fight for this country. Because I fight for my life, for my sanity; and so does everyone else. The spirit of the song is was matters. The video might not make sense to you, but it does to me, and surely it does to thousands of other people.
Vermont Strong
GET FUCKING REAL. Not all of choose the negative experiences in our lives, some of us fight for our livelihood, our health, and our peace of mind on a daily basis. Otherwise gets that, they understand that the average Joe fights hard to find peace in this life. How dare you try and take that away from those suffering against their will or actions?
yg49
“the biggest, dumbest target audience possible”
Really? I know some college educated people making 6 figures a year who love this song and band.
Taste in music is an individual choice having nothing to do with intellect.
Apparently, thanks to the internet, anyone can call himself a reviewer and write crap like this, thankfully Otherwise’s audience isn’t dumb enough to put any value in this, contrary to what you might think.
kitarianne
Everyone fights for something, That is the point, the point of stand shoulder to shoulder, come on even someone from the UK since apparently you think they are a different breed can understand that! It amazes me that you tear apart a band such as this who tries hard to do the right thing who holds free concerts for the military and honors lost ones along the way and many other amazing things just because you don’t understand what it means. Maybe try watching all their videos reading their bibliographies on their website instead of going to outdated Myspace really ? Do you know anything about them as a band? Part of what makes them great is each member of the band and their personal history! Seriously learn more before you tear things apart.
http://www.facebook.com/tina.rexroad Tina Rexroad
Love this song!!!! Otherwise ROCKS!!!
http://www.facebook.com/sean.widrick Sean Widrick
This write up is bogus, and clearly written by a
degenerate moron. The amount of people that have found a connection with
SOLDIERS and numerous other songs that the OTHERWISE boys have written speaks
for itself. the UK is usually on par with most things music, but clearly this
guy has never seen a OTHERWISE show and seen the connection the boys create
with their fans, or the vibe of the packed house they play 2. Simply put
“You can’t erase us you’ll just have to face us” keep up the good
fight boys, we are behind you 100%
RavenSkye
I for one respect your opinion, you don’t like it… that’s fine. However, millions have connected with it, many love this song and that’s what matters most. Not everyone is going to like this song, this band, or this type of music.
However, OTHERWISE, is a great band that will be out for a long time.
MySpace is only ONE place to go to find music, there are a TON of freaking awesome rock bands that you miss out on by ONLY using MySpace. I research music constantly, and there are more then 15 resources I go to find things.
If you wish to really research and find bands you like, do it better. If you are going to write about it, you need to use much more resources than just MySpace. That isn’t even going to give you a SLIVER of an idea of what’s out there.
Sad attempt at generating clicks by being an asshole.
Jason
Unreal…..do some reaearch on something current before you open your mouth next time. Why insult massive groups by callingvthem stupid if they like a movie? Get over yourself and go back to myspace lol
http://www.facebook.com/Miles1122 Chris Donniani Miles
This song has so much more meaning then what you apparently have found in it. After I went to Otherwises web site and read why they wrote the song, and who it is about I then understood EXACTLY what they are saying. I am not a “soldier” as you have clearly defined it but in my everyday world I AM a soldier. I live everyday “fighting” with the invisible disease of MS (multiple Sclerosis). I appear to be normal on the outside but inside I fight the day to day struggles of this dibillitating disease. Some days are harder then others. I also “fight” through other daily struggles that some people endure. My husband and I work hard to provide a food, clothing and a roof over our families head. We sometimes live with out the extra things, but we fight through it and continue on. Because we are not fighting in a war doesnt mean we are not fighting. Soldiers can be defined as so much more then one at war. People could be fighting for health issues, lose of a loved one, financial loss, emotional struggles, stressful jobs and home lives. It could be any number of things!!! If you were intelligent enough to understand REAL music then you would have grabbed the whole concept of the song and video right from the getgo!!! EVERYBODY IS A SOLDIER!!!! Apperentley you are not and never have had to deal with real stress and everyday situations, probably because you have parents that spoon fed you from the beggining and still are! before you go and pass judgement on anyone you should know what your talking about!! and you being from the UK only signifies your stupidity and that you have NO CLUE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!!!!
http://www.facebook.com/MelLiss1 Mel Issa
It’s more than obvious that you are over-analyzing the lyrics in a very literal manner. The beauty of the art of music is that it’s open to interpretation. Most things can be defined in multiple ways. Just because the lyrics mean nothing to you, because you do not understand them, does not mean they don’t mean something to someone else. It has nothing to do with where you are from. It has everything to do with if you can relate to the actual lyrics and understand them, even if your understanding of the lyrics is something totally different that what the bands motivation for the song was. Having a music blog, one would think you would know that is one of the most common determining factors when it comes to if a person likes or dislikes a song. A “soldier” is one who works diligently for a cause. Therefore, I think they got their message across quite well. A “soldier” is also a colony of social insects. Do you dislike bees because you feel they don’t fit your own ignorant single definition of a “soldier”? This blog you posted is silly. Blog about the weather, it’s the one thing you can be wrong about and nobody really gives a shit. Your attempt at being a music critic was a complete fail.
http://www.facebook.com/dmorrish2 David Morrish
I like to think it’s a BIG THANK YOU to the soldiers for what they do so people can have the freedoms to become firefighters or bar tenders or what have you.I got news for ya,i’ve seen them 3 times sense August and it’s really 1 of the best live shows i’ve ever seen and i’ve been 2 4 ozzfests and seen alot of live show.I also think they have this classic rock feel to them witch alot of bands have tried and failed in the last 10 years or so.
Really dude ? ANYONE who gets up, goes out into the world and comes back at the end of the night alive is a soldier… Its so easy for someone to sit behind their monitor and spout prose .. The people in the video are everyday people (which are what soldiers are) who have to fight just to make it through the day, week, year, life. As for “wiping the blood out of our eyes” it means the hard sweat and tears * life’s blood*
Comparing them to Nickleback seriously? What the hell are you smoking over there? Maybe your editor needs to have you drug tested. I’m not sure who gave you the job but maybe they need to be checked as well.
I’ve seen these guys rocking out at more than one venue, they are REAL people and I guess you don’t get Americans.. WE ARE THE ONES WHO WILL NEVER BE BROKEN !!! Probably a good thing you’re overseas ♫
Mcbigdogmom
Wow you haven’t a clue. You do not know these guys personally and know what their beliefs are and what they stand for. You do not know how they do in fact support their military. I personally attended a concert last spring in Jackson Michigan they were the headliner for that was a military appreciation night. Any military personnel got in free and were honored. They also invited men from the National Guard to join them on stage at Rockapalooza. We are all soldiers in this world…. and Otherwise honors us all. These guys are not only talented on stage, but they are wonderful to their fans off stage. How many concerts with bands like this do you see each and every band member pose with fans, sign autographs for hours AND ask you your name and thank you personally for coming to a show. And if you think that they do it for the money….think again. It’s a great feeling when at the next show, they remember who you are. I am honored to have met them and will continue to support them any time I can.
Bruce East
I don’t think you could have missed the point any further if you tried. Maybe interpreting songs is not your forte.
http://www.facebook.com/ben.schmidt.3975 Ben Schmidt
Wow!! You really dont get it there bud. Heres a little advise…. its ok to say “I dont get it” rather than putting something great down especially when you clearly do not have a clue what is is about!! Weather would be a good thing for you to report, its ok to report things like that then, people expect you to be wrong there…
MommaB
Everyone has differing opinions about music, always have, always will. Regardless of my opinion of this song, leave your American hating b.s. out of it. Calling everyone who likes this song the biggest, dumbest audience is just plain idiotic. From a business standpoint, a big audience with money, stupid or not, is not a bad place to be. I respectfully disagree with everything in this article.
http://twitter.com/Dubulous13 Cory
More like “Butt Pirate Jim”!
BrianB
Obviously you are only aware of our own struggles and you are too preoccupied with our own problems to understand the meaning of this song. Otherwise is clearly singing about the battles we all fight everyday in this unfavouring world. Unfortunately, it appears you only sympathize with yourself and you are blind to the difficulties the common men and women of this world must face daily. Until you can open your heart and see what cannot always be seen your view of this world, like your writings, will remain ignorant.
Everyone that fights for anything in their life be it to get ahead, to feed their family or to keep following a dream no matter how hard it gets is a soldier in some way. This critic just does not seem to get it or to value the hard work of all people…including musicians.
1. Canada Is not a part of the U.S.A.
2. Otherwise has a large following here in Canada
3. Everyone in the world is a Soldier in some fashion, do you mean to say that the kids who stand up to bullies in school and get the shit kicked out of them are not soldiers in the fight for equality?
4. You sir stand for something, MY question is what the hell is it? Because it appears to me that the only thing you stand for is unconstructive criticism.
5. I hope you have the decency to at least clarify your stance to the band.
6. – - – - – - NEVER EVER EVER EVER USE FOX NEWS AS A MARKER FOR MUSIC AGAIN— From a Canadian Soldier
http://www.facebook.com/wayne.charlton.923 Wayne Charlton
1-from the son of a soldier, thank you
2-THANK YOU for number 6
http://www.facebook.com/wayne.charlton.923 Wayne Charlton
I am also canadian
Shantanee W.
I must say you are entitled to you opinion, but this article is so wrong on many different levels. I would suggest on doing some sound research on a band you aren’t familiar with before writing about them. If you had you would have known the guys initially wrote the song for themselves and their struggle getting heard and making their dreams come true. Their hard work hadn’t been paying off and they did what they do, what most of us do, found empowerment through music. The song itself started as one thing, and with the power of great songs, it takes on a life of its own. Many people without a voice of their own took to this song. It became an anthem for all of us who work hard, dream, live and breathe for what we believe in most. We get to do what we do everyday, mostly due in part to our Soldiers. They fight, lose sleep, miss their families, sacrifice their lives so we can have the civil liberties we are privileged to everyday. Its for US. Everyone matters, we are all Soldiers in our own right, we fight for something greater, and this article insists that what we fight for is meaningless. Not just our Soldiers, but EMTs, Teachers, Firefighters, Doctors, Lawyers, Blue-Collar working class joes, matter. If they didn’t fight and work hard fight, everything our Soldiers sacrifice their lives for would be in vain. Don’t trample over something that gives us “regular folk” a sense of pride and hope that what they strive for means something. Also myspace is a bit outdated. There’s a facebook, centurymedia.com, etc.. ACTUALLY look up OTHERWISE and what they stand for. Maybe your opinion will change. Being from the UK doesn’t help either. God Save The Queen…and all that.
loretta
i think u should keep ur article written to urself. if u been to an otherwise concert they pay tribute to the forces and never disrespect. they song is for all the working people in the world and also soldiers. dont dis them till u meet them
Teo
Dear Big “Butt-Pirate” Jim,
How does it feel when someone that doesn’t even know you, puts you down??? Not very good I suppose. ;0 Now that I have that out of the way… I too am a Las Vegas musician and have known Adrian & Ryan Patrick for over 10 years. We have come to one another’s shows and even shared stages at most of the local Las Vegas venues. They are 2 of the nicest, most genuine individuals I know. They have extremely kind hearts & care about all people, music, friends, family and Las Vegas. Having served as a Medic in the United States Army during the first Gulf War (88′-91′), I am especially moved that they wrote Soldiers. This song is the anthem for all people & their video is simply stating that we are ALL Soldiers in whatever we do, be it serving in the armed forces or being a single mother raising her children. It is truly sad that someone in your position (with somewhat of a public voice) misses this and attempts to blast something that has way more meaning/significance then you will ever know. BTW- Their video was made way before “Soldiers” began surging up Sirius’s charts. Using verbiage/phrases from your own article: Otherwise has been noted as “the next big thing” & “the number one unsigned band in America,” it’s fairly obvious that everyone else gets it. ;0
A.J
I’m interested in checking out new music. What’s your bands name and I will check you guys out as well.
http://www.facebook.com/ajrice1 Amanda J. Rice Harvey
You must understand since you are from the UK that we here in America have the utmost respect for all professions. We are all are fighting to make our way in this world yet we respect one another and are soldiers in our own lives. I am not sure what music you really listen to, but your ignorance when it comes to metal/rock is astounding. Especially putting Creed, Papa Roach and Puddle of Mudd on blast! ~from an annoyed Papa Roach and Otherwise fan!
http://www.facebook.com/lisastabile Melissa L. Freya
WOW…what a waste of words and a waste of my time reading them. My take, Big Pirate Jim is without talent musically, nor has he done ANY research on the actual inspiration for the song. So, with that said, I will school you Butt Pirate, oops I mean Big Pirate, the song was NOT written as an anthem to the military. It was penned as an anthem to the everyday struggles of life. It was EMBRACED by the military because, as GREAT MUSIC SHOULD, it touched on emotions. It was EMBRACED by people from all walks of life, from graduating students, Autism Research Movement, people devastated by Hurricane Sandy, and the everyday man/woman struggling to make it in this world. So, in short, you have FAILED as a conveyor of fact, you have FAILED as a reviewer of music, and you have FAILED as someone who has talent to make their own music. What next? Perhaps you can get a job at Fox News, since you believe them to be inept, you should fit right in.
shannon
As a writer it is often the fear of being misunderstood that makes us do much research and reflection into our own thoughts before we write them. Primarily those that write as critics. Once written (especially onto a viral place such as the internet medium) they will remain, and they will be repeated with your name attached. Attacking a band for their use of a word and their chosen representation of those lyrics in a video via the career/salaries of those people in said video does not make you a “music critic” any more then it makes you a “misunderstood writer”. It is also pretty much hypocrisy in your case. Research, review, reflect, write, and then publish. You have a right to your opinion. You just might not get very many people to agree with you if you have little to base it on. You should go to a concert and see the Active Military brought on stage to sing with the artists during “Soldiers”, then ask them what it felt like to be part of the experience. Maybe then you will see the term “Soldiers” is well represented by Otherwise. That is a thought to ponder in your quest as a “Freelance Writer”. Before your life’s hard work gets bashed in a review wouldn’t you like someone to spend a few minutes researching your reasons why you made the choices to write what you write?
Brian
Listen, I respect that you are just voicing your opinion on this, but that’s all this blog is, an opinion. Maybe they didnt make this video to get a “UK Perspective”…Like you said it is about being “Proud to be American”. In America we like to commemorate the people that work hard every day just to put food on the table for their families. Yes the song is called “Soldiers” but being a soldier can have more than one meaning than just going into battle with a gun in your hand. If you had an ounce of artistic nature in your body, you would know that sometimes you have to read between the lines when you listen to songs. That is part of what makes this song and video so great, the fact that everyone can listen to it and take some piece of it out and use it in their own lives. Everyday people can relate to this song and they do. Take a second from your next basher-blog, click a new tab and check out the news in America because right now it is a battlefield and these everyday people are soldiers fighting for what they believe in:
America, their families, their friends, and sometimes people they hardly know.
That is what this song is about and that is what being a “soldier” is all about.
So next time you go to openly scrutinize a band for not know what they are talking about, how bout you do a little research and show some objectivity because personally I dont think YOU have any idea what you are talking about sir….
Otherwise rocks!
http://www.facebook.com/boris.grishnikov Boris Grishnikov
Learn to read before you write
SGT_Gardner
I am a Disabled Combat Veteran of the Iraq Afghanistan wars, and i think you missed the point of what this video is actuality portraying. it does not need to focus on those of us who are in uniform or those of us who used to wear the uniform because it focuses on the whole of us all, many people serving this nation are reserve and national guard soldiers, hmm did you ever think about that? you know the citizen soldiers? no okay how about this every single person in the United states is going to have to stand up for what they believe in and very soon it looks like as our Liberty’s have been getting striped out of the Bill of rights.
MJDuffey
You have your musical preferences and so do the rest of us. Several of your “points” show me that your “opinion” is laughable at best; Fox News? Star Trek & space battles? MySpace? Biggest, dumbest audience possible? Only doing well in America?
OK, so you are a UK outsider, but you can’t understand that soldiers take all forms of life, military or not. Are you not a soldier of something? Do you not believe in ANYTHING enough to fight? To stand up for? I can see why you feel the way you do then.
Otherwise is an extremely talented band, in recording form and live. I would see them anytime and anywhere and I buy what they’re selling. Not to mention they are extremely nice guys. They have followers all over the world whether you want to believe it or not. Sorry, I’m not “big and dumb” as you suggest I should be to listen to their music. Try again please and please get your facts straight.
I have to say, this is your opinion and I have to respect that, but your opinion is a bunch of garbage and a very un-educated one. Just because we aren’t putting our lives on the line by fighting on the front lines everyday doesn’t mean we are not soldiers. Everybody is fighting to stay alive everyday and to put food on the table, putting our lives on the line for our jobs just to make a living. For you to say people with low income jobs are not fighting for anything just shows your ignorance and arrogance. The song was written because of the fights and struggles as a band was like they were fighting a war together as soldiers and realized this was true for every human being on the planet. We’re all fighting our own battles every single day. So you’re opinion, is ridiculous.
Trey
I can’t believe I actually read this load of bullshit!! You sir are a dumbass!!
Mike
The song is obviously an anthem on American patriotism, which you would know nothing about if you haven’t lived here or served in it’s military. Our “low paying jobs” have nothing to do with the sense of pride we feel as a country. Just because we don’t interrupt our day for pinky raising tea and crumpets doesn’t mean we’re any less of a people than you and yours. I’m an Army vet and a firefighter of 13 years and I bust my ass for family, community, and country. Don’t like what you hear on the radio? Turn it off. But keep your lousy opinions to yourself (or share them on Myspace, that’s just as good.)
Soldiers Will Rise
I know not every song is perfect but the critics who always have negative things to say, just stop being a critic and make something of yourself, because you suck at what your doing.
http://www.facebook.com/Valicious1 Valori Chapman
If it weren’t for all the EVERYDAY people SOLDIERING on… then America would fail. We are the foundation of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA. Yes it takes Pawn Shop owners, and firemen, and roller derby teams. It takes mechanics, food servers, and our students. It takes one voice to unite the voices of many. It takes our hardwork, sweat, tears and yes BLOOD to make this great country of ours. I am a MOTHER soldier.
P.S. Update your stuff sugar, MySpace is SOOO last decade.
A.J
Sounds to me someone needs to go back to the finger paints and drooling in his captain crunch. Take a step outside of your mums basement and actually look for a job. Then you will know what we are in together. Until then go back to listening to a talentless “thing” and a band that’s so bad it makes any form of crotch rot sound welcoming.
Mal
You just missed the point ,maybe if you saw it live with others you might get it , You are kind of negative, guess you have never heard that before.
A.J
Here’s a few suggestions buddy: Lose myspace, and use something more modern. Stop droolong into your oatmeal, remove the crayolas from your ear and actually listen to the song. Also… stop relying on fox media to direct your opinion. Grow a pair, and stop picking your nose with the same finger you pick your ass with. Whoever gave you a job doing music reviews needs to resign, because obviously you couldn’t pick good music even if it “face-fucked you with a rolling stones rubber dildo.
Now.. how does that feel you dolt? Not liking it huh?
Now to be serious, you’re right in essentially saying that you don’t get it. But instead of ripping it cause you don’t like it, try to understand what others like about it. You obviously have never had a stuggle while getting a free ride in the basement your whole life
Amy
Maybe you should be more ‘liberal’ with your own definition of soldier.
Though I have no affiliation with the military aside from the fact that my brother serves, you can beat our ass I am a soldier.
Daily, I soldier on; through mundane routines like grocery shopping and getting chores done. I soldier on at work, as a bartender, where I put up with opinionated asses with a smile on my face. If it were not people like me you would not get a beer in your favorite place fella.
I soldier on through chronic pain from a form of arthritis and through PTSD.
Hubby soldiers on through his job for barely above minimum wage without benefits after the last place he worked for closed the company; grateful for that job though he puts food on the shelf that you buy.
My surprise to the “Soldiers” video was one of wonder; that they took us ‘little people’ and put us to the fore front and showcased us.
I say job well done and to you I say Good Day !!
Colleen
I am a Soldier. I fight for my children every day. I show them who and what heroes are. I have bled for them, I’ve fought for my brothers. I’ll bleed for anyone who deserves it. I stand shoulder to shoulder with not only my family, but every other person out there on this planet that want better. Better Lives for future generations, Better tomorrows and brighter today’s. I live by a code I have followed my entire life. That makes me a soldier. I support the men and women in uniform…..any uniform. Firefighter,Police,Army,Marine, anyone who has dedicated their profession to me and mine deserves my respect. But because I don’t share the same uniform, doesn’t make me any less dedicated to my Code or fight for the best life I can make for myself. I think you are entitled to your opinion, and have an amazing amount of confidence to not only criticize, but to do so in the negative aspect, something you didn’t fully understand. I advise you to listen again to Otherwise, not just their Soldiers, but the entire True Love Album…… and to rethink future critiques……you might keep more of a following of readers if your comments were original…instead of an embarrassing attempt to compare different bands from two different genres of rock…(there are by the way more than 3 rock genres). Have a wonderful day
Best
Colleen
joanne
Love the song
Love the video
Love the band
MegLee
Did you seriously just use a Star Trek analogy then make fun of Transformers? WOW if you were trying to make yourself sound like your NOT a nerd, you failed horribly. Secondly, obviously you’ve spent your entire life living in Mummy’s basement and haven’t actually fought to survive in society like each and every one of the people in that video and most of the people who read this joke. What gives you the right to say that normal everyday people aren’t soldiers? Just because there isn’t bullets flying passed our heads doesn’t mean that we aren’t fighting some type of battle. If you feel like you such an outsider, get off your stupid ass, go out and interact with some real life hard working people who fight to keep shelter over their heads and food in their stomachs. Not everyone gets life handed to them on a silver platter. We fight diseases, addictions, poverty, natural disasters and so much more that your sad mind will never understand. Every day I fight a panic disorder, my husband’s ADHD, a severed shoulder and I fight to keep food in daughter’s mouth and a roof over her head. That is fighting. My husband fights the blistering heat all summer and freezing cold all winter, a bad back and torn ankle ligaments just to build cement walls to support his family.
” Transformers movie, i.e., the biggest, dumbest target audience possible.”.. You do realize that you just called hundreds of doctors, firefighters, police, construction workers, teachers and probably a bunch of MENSA members dumb right? How dumb are they when they safely build your your home, heal you, save you from a burning building or stop your stupid ass from bleeding to death? Aren’t fucking stupid then are they? The only people that shouldn’t be listening to this song is jokes like you.
And your comments about MySpace. If you were listening to other bands and didn’t realize it, then you have horrible sense of hearing which has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not Soldiers is a good song. You say Otherwise is a good band, yet your online bitching about their music. Way to show your support… Igit.
Araira
It is a shame that a person who makes a written and a critique of something … not the task of deepening beyond what the eye can see … Today we are all soldiers fighting for what we believe and to have a decent place to live ..Soldiers is more than a word. It is about standing up for yourself, for your family, for what you believe in….
Araira
It is a shame that a person who makes a written and a critique of
something … not the task of deepening beyond what the eye can see …
Today we are all soldiers fighting for what we believe and to have a
decent place to live ..Soldiers is more than a word. It is about
standing up for yourself, for your family, for what you believe in….
Kimberly
Hey Big Pirate Jim, are you old enough or experienced enough to make this broad comment? I am a SOLDIER in life, a SOLDIER of God, a SOLDIER in healthcare and support my SOLDIER brother. Maybe you just have nothing passionate enough in your heart or life to understand what it means to be a SOLDIER.
OUrocks
Otherwise is great and what they are doing for all the soldiers is awesome. Your stupid critic can suck it as he’s obviously an idiot and you should find another.
Bob
How about as a Nation in a time of great mistrust. Mistrust in our leaders and more importantly in a time when we have been sold out by the forth estate yes you sir you and a media that propagates fear and division as your piece on Soldiers does. It may not be a fight from behind your elitist pen. But for the majority of Americians life today is a struggle and we could use an uplifting song or two. So listen or don’t But don’t think for. One moment your opinion is changing ANYONES mind. Have a nice day.
Soliders aren’t just military. Soliders fight everyday for different reasons. You should be ashamed of yourself with your high and mighty UK ass. You could only wish to rock as hard as these men and have as many people love you as they do. They are very talented very humble indivduals who work hard. They too are soliders. This is shameful. To get your kicks downing the best band in I can’t say how many years. Maybe if you were american you would understand…but you’re not so you don’t. You don’t know how many people in the video are or are not military soliders. Your opinion is stupid. Yes AMERICANS love this…you don’t have to, but you also don’t have to down the only good band in years. #hater #jealous because you don’t have their fame.
http://www.facebook.com/dmorrish2 David Morrish
Tell baby!!
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The person who made this review SUCKS, you’re a pathetic idiot man ¬¬
Miguel Bizarre
I’m blessed to know OTHERWISE over the years and I am proud of them unlike you are. Their video shows VEGAS people (Like myself born and raised and taught to show respect and if someone creates something from the heart that is all that matters. I’ve created things and if it touches one soul I am happy. You sadly created more people to despise you and would never see a friendship that would have been incredible.) who work their asses off to make other peoples lives better. (those people include tourists who sometimes can be annoying as Hell and such but that’s life.) I could go on and on but I’m not quite popular or hated like you but I will leave it at that. The boys Love their hometown and are awesome people to know. You putting them down won’t disturb their passion: MUSIC!!! Other than writing I am in the medical field treating patients from babies to 93 year old youngsters. I treat everyone in Life like how I would want my family treated, with respect and Love. How would you like it if someone wrote a pathetic article about your siblings, cousins, parents, book, painting, album, memoir and such. Oh and for my grammer skills. I have an editor but they are currently being in a dormant state. Am I worried not one bit but I dislike what you spewed. Oh and by the way Teo who posted here as well is an incredible friend and a SOLDIER!!! There are people who just whine about others because they don’t the have desire to make things happen. Talent can be learned but the passion comes within. Sorry to say your heart is vacant…
Rick Trip
Otherwise? More like OTHERWISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.yellmagazine.com Yell! Magazine
Hey guys, this is just his opinion and will get him to respond immediately since many of you are obviously pissed off at his remarks. I personally know the author very well and he did serve his native country for over two years I believe (trained at Fort Bragg). I’m sure he will be happy to respond to this post and clear up the things he said. Cheers!
TadBad
Who ever said that the English were snobbish pricks? Can’t imagine… Duh, the point is that we all have our own battles to fight every day. They seem small to others but are hurdles to the ones who have to deal with them. You obviously don’t get it. At all. No wonder your puny country’s “empire” is now the size of a small U.S. state. No matter how divided we can be or the battles we fight within our own country, in the end we would all stand together. This is why all of our ancestors risked everything to come here, passing that mindset onto us…and yours decided to play it safe and stay there…
http://www.yellmagazine.com Yell! Magazine
Evil Argento here: First, I AM NOT the author of this review. Second, I am American. Third, I was a soldier in the U.S. Army for three active years. Fourth, Big Pirate Jim no longer writes for Yell! Magazine.
I can’t believe the community here. I’m really pleased by the brother/sisterhood I’m seeing and it is humbling to know that so many people can come together to show their support for what they believe in. And what do you believe in? The obvious is this song and this band. The other, slightly less obvious, is the belief in the everyday hero and in yourselves. I applaud you for that (if I can do so without coming across as pretentious), and I’m slightly embarrassed that it all comes from something that we published.
Admittedly, I don’t like this song. I don’t think any of you will judge me on my preference. I also agreed with Big Pirate Jim when I first read his review. Yes, I got the message of the song (missing it would be like traveling toward a wall in a car at 100 mph and applying the brakes 10 feet from the wall and hoping to stop in time), but I couldn’t look past the representation of a “soldier” in the video, which is the crux of this review.
Perhaps I missed the larger definition of a soldier because of my experience as an Army Soldier. And that’s probably arrogant. I’d like to thank everyone who has posted here about a single mother, a kid who gets bullied, a firefighter, a teacher, etc., for opening my eyes to the broader definition. I’d also like to apologize to you, readers, for our shortsightedness. We will be more careful in the future.
Sincerely,
Evil
PS, I still don’t like the song… but I have a new found appreciation for the video.
Nyk
I really do not understand the reasoning for this blog. I guess someone feels the need to bash someone that is trying to say something good about and for our country. Otherwise did a very good job of writing this song for the U.S. and performing it. Bash someone that has a reasoning to be bashed, drugs, stealing, lying, cheating, find someone that has done something wrong and make that public. But leave “OTHERWISE” alone. They are a very good group and proud of them!
Michelle
Admittedly, the first time I started watching this video I spent the first thirty seconds or so confused, as you seem to be. In retrospect, I think my confusion stemmed from the hype that this song was getting from the military end. I was expecting men and women from the military and not your everyday citizen. However, it didn’t take long for the bigger meaning to sink in. The alien concept you’re failing to see is explained in that first line, really. “For the warriors who fight and die…so the rest of us may fight to Live.” It’s all about survival. The paramedics, the fireman, the nurse, the guy in the pawn shop, the bartender, the plumber, and every other working person out there is fighting to survive in their own personal battlefield. That’s where the “we’re in this together” vibe comes in. It’s not that people are in low-paying jobs, school, or roller derbies together, it’s that they are surviving together. The song is a reminder that you’re not alone and an inspiration to never give up. When you’re working your ass off and giving life everything you have, but still struggling day to day…never give up. Never stop fighting. The men and women in uniform may be the soldiers for our countries and our people, but we are ALL soldiers for Life.
http://www.facebook.com/wayne.charlton.923 Wayne Charlton
Before i say anyhing, i understand where you are coming from. However, im a proud Canadian, im not a soldier myself, but i come from a line of soldiers, my father was also a firefighter and a paramedic after his service. I think you miss the whole point of this video, at least as i see it. although i think this is a great song for military, i also see it as a song for anyone who sacrifices for others. When you and your collegues, friends whatever, jump into situations without reguard for yourself, simply to help others who are in a bad situation and in harms way, this is a song that honors you for what you have done, or even for just having your buddies back in everyday situations. If you cant understand that then i cant explain how sorry i feel for you, as i feel your life must be painfully empty, or alone. If so my thoughts go out to you.